Andrew Young uses the same term as Trump to describe Haiti, but notes U.S. is partly to blame

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First things first: former Atlanta Mayor and U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young Jr. signaled exactly zero – ZERO – support for President Donald Trump’s remarks disparaging Haiti and Africa as “shithole” countries during recent talks on immigration.

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Instead he offered a learned and dispassionate assessment of Haiti’s history and its immeasurable contributions to the United States whilst throwing a little shade, as the kids say, the president’s way. He is a student of and a product of history he doubts the president grasps.

“Because I grew up in New Orleans, I have had an appreciation for the role Haiti played in helping the United States stay together,” Young said during a Friday afternoon interview. “The president? I wouldn’t expect him to know that.”

Young was born in New Orleans to Daisy and Andrew Jackson Young Sr. His grandfather named his father in honor of Gen. Andrew Jackson, hero of the Battle of New Orleans and later a United States president.

Preceding the 1815 victory in New Orleans was the 1803 Louisiana Purchase, propelled by the successful slave revolution in the French colony of Saint-Domingue, as Haiti was then called.

“The US never appreciated” the young island nation’s role in the United States’ independence, Young said.

As commander, Jackson issued a call for black troops in 1814, promising freedom to those who enlisted.

“My grandfather was born in 1860 and I don’t have any recollection of his being a slave,” Young said. “He was born free and was a landowner. I attribute that to what Andrew Jackson did in protecting New Orleans.”

A statue of Gen. Andrew Jackson, hero of the Battle of New Orleans, in Jackson Square. Photo: Charles Gay V

 

 

Young’s comments regarding Trump’s choice of words to describe Haiti and Africa were withering, and he pointed out that Haiti’s troubles bear America’s fingerprints.

“Haiti is a shithole,” he said, echoing the president’s widely disparaged remarks – in an entirely different take. “But it’s largely because the French and the Europeans resented they were defeated there. Haiti has been neglected. It’s also been the victim of hurricanes and earthquakes. We have helped, but never enough to get them on their feet.”

Young does not single out Trump in his assessment of America’s failures to assist or understand Haiti.

“That’s been typical of our leadership. It’s not just him,” he said. “We have not been the global leader we should have been, except under President Carter’s time. We have to understand the world if we’re going to lead it.”

With the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Day holiday approaching, Young had tender remembrances of his friend, mentor and colleague.

“The fact that we are still celebrating and probably more people know about him more than when he was he alive lets me know that he is still very much spiritually alive,” Young said of King. “He pervades everything I do. He’s sort of like one of our founding fathers.”

Young feels that we are moving toward King’s vision of a nation where the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners could sit down at the table of brotherhood.

“It’s happened in our schools, it’s happened in our workplaces, it’s certainly happening in our sports world,” Young said. ‘It’s even happening in our churches.”

The challenge remains in tackling poverty, he said: “We have long way to go on poverty.”

He also mused at how much the world has changed geopolitically since he was a child.

“When I was growing up I had to eat everything on my plate because of ‘all the starving children in China.’ Now we’re in debt to China,” he said. “The world is changing so fast. Before we knew it the economy has gone global.”

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CM1CM2
CM1CM2

Every time Andrew Young opens his mouth, I feel like throwing up.

There's a reason why the Obama's never invited him to the White House. 

snafubar
snafubar

If America, out of the goodness of its heart, gave Haiti $1 Billion dollars to build a state of the art sewage treatment plant in the capital, what do you think would happen to the money?

Getalifealready
Getalifealready

If you got a dollar I’m sure it would go towards meth.

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

Thanks for informed and dispassionate perspectives,  Andrew Young and Isaac Farris. 






OdessaHooker
OdessaHooker

Ambassador Andrew Young is one of the brightest historian I know, and he has eh memory of an elephant. The accurate re-writing of American History should include his input.

OdessaHooker
OdessaHooker

Ambassador Andrew Young is the most astute historian I have the privilege of knowing; he also has the memory of an elephant. The accurate re-writing of American history should include his input.

Odessa Hooker

COL1HYATT
COL1HYATT

Regarding Haiti. The DOJ should look into the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton's and their associates for profiting wildly from Haiti's misfortunes. The Clinton Foundation and surely their cronies made millions off of this disaster.

Jahenn
Jahenn

@COL1HYATT Why do we always default back to the Clintons.... my God, they aren't in power, and haven't been since 2000 .....


StopTheInvasion
StopTheInvasion

@Jahenn @COL1HYATT Ask the Haitians why.  They hate the Clintons. And where have you been in the last ten years? 


Never heard of the Clinton Global Initiative or the Clinton Foundation?  They were given the management responsibility over $9B for the Haitian Hurricane Relief on 2010. TheY spent $8B of it paying contractors, UN programs, and donor countries military costs (example they paid millions a day for US soldiers topas out waterbottles!).


Of the Billion left 95% was given to the government, much of which ended up in the hands of corrupt officials.  A miniscule amount actually made it to Haitians in need.  Even being completely incompetent, they could have just given thew cash to the people.  Itg would have amounted to 2 years income, and that would have also been provided to children and others unable to  work.  A family of 5 with a father as the sole income earner could have gotten 5 years of income! And still had plenty left over.


But, It pays better to be a friend of Bill.  And, to your point re: being out of power since 2000?  This was EXACTLY while Hillary was SECRETARY OF STATE.  


At best the Clintons and their Foundation are worse than incompetent.  Or, as many have claimed, this was a Clinton Foundation money laundering scheme in to which countries and vendors "donated" money in expectation for contracts and favorable treatment from the State Department.....


Makes a little more sense why those pesky people just can't stop dragging the Clinton's into everything?  


BECAUSE THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERY OPPORTUNITY THEY CAN FIND TO GRAB CASH.  


And,they have never heard of a dollar the wasn't theirs.

Tiger1941
Tiger1941

Whatever happened to the $1.5 million raised after the Haiti hurricane, overseen by Presidents Bill Clinton and the elder Bush?  It seems to me, when seeing the squalor still there, this money was either ill-spent or not spent. Clinton foundation enrichment perhaps?

Jahenn
Jahenn

@Tiger1941 More "blame Clintons" ...... he was THREE presidents ago!

tomnsuwanee
tomnsuwanee

I thought the Clinton Foundation was going re-build that country and make it a good place to live ! 

c130a
c130a

@tomnsuwanee -  That idea was about as worthless as Bush43's attempt to bring peace to the Middle East. 

stiffneck
stiffneck

CNN  =  Chithole News Network

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

Liberals and Democrats don't give a " rats A$$ " about Haiti, Trump only gave them a chance to pound their chests and claim how " offended " they were at his choice of words which were spot on. The real offense here is the lip service paid to all these S  Hole countries by Liberals while talking at their wine tasting parties or sipping latte's at the local coffee house.  

MissDaisyCook
MissDaisyCook

Maybe a term not used in public, polite society, but a true one.  Certain countries, like Haiti and Samoli, are examples;  Corrupt countries with splintered governance looking out for their own selfish faction and not the country as a whole.  It is not the US's role to go in and spend resources to establish a stable government.  Yes, limited humanitarian aid on a temporary basis when a natural disaster strikes if we are able. Certain countries, it appears, will always be "s---holes" unless and until some internal correction occurs in those places. 

Viana
Viana

vbastacky@yahoo.com

Jedthrow88
Jedthrow88

Young is essentially correct however Haiti is a French problem.  The island also had the Dominican Republic on it and its more prosperous and doesn't have the issues caused by a tyrannical government like the Haitians have had for years. 


Trump language was course but people don't want to look at the entire picture of how the Haitians have been mistreated especially the aid that was suppose to go to them from the Clinton Foundation that built nothing. That is the true tragedy. 

standingovation
standingovation

Whatever, nothing can excuse certain levels of human violation.

BurroughstonBroch
BurroughstonBroch

Using precise, descriptive language is not a violation. The violation is pretending the conditions don’t exist, or sugar coating them.

SydH
SydH

Being impoverished doesn't make one less of a human being. Calling names shows a lack of ability to grasp the situation at hand.

Barbry
Barbry

Try not to confuse the intent of Andy Youngs message with the unabated racism in the Oval Office

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@Barbry  What rights has " racist " Trump taken away from any minority US citizens since he was elected ?

c130a
c130a

@Tiger1941 - that's a dumbass reply and does not answer the question.  I doubt you know the answer Tiger, do you? 

JimChapman
JimChapman

Haiti is perhaps a "shithole" But what does Young's history lesson have do to with Trump being a racist? 

StopTheInvasion
StopTheInvasion

@Infraredguy @JimChapman No he would be talking to someone that is going to see racism everywhere they look.  And, everytime they find it.  They are going to pat themselves on the back at how great they are for being so enlightened in this world of dullards....


Dave Kennedy
Dave Kennedy

Trump wants more Norwegians, not Africans and Haitians. 


How is that not racist?


He has been sued for racial discrimination by the U.S. Govt.


His laws affect all of us. So, if the orange troll leading the country thinks like this? What do you think his policies mean for those that are not white Europeans?


Impeach Trump!

StopTheInvasion
StopTheInvasion

@Dave Kennedy It's not racist, because all he is asking for is a sense of balance.  The reason he exploded is because Grahamnesty and the Dems brough hima plan that actually showed steeply rising immigration from countries that are already over represented.  For instance, El Salvador already has 1 in four of its citizens here, right now.  And their plan called for their numbers to sharply increase in the years ahead.  Why?

larietta
larietta

Been to Haite/DR?  I have and Trump and Young are just being honest.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

Young's comments are pretty much on target which will of course make him just another " Uncle Tom " with the Liberals and race baiters who scream about Trumps comments but secretly say the same things when they are among themselves with no media around. Did you ever hear Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer issuing an invitation the any of these S Hole countries residents to come visit them on their estates for dinner  LOL, I think not.

Frankie1221
Frankie1221

The potus needs to look within his own country first there are a lot of places we need to clean up before we start disrespecting other countries.

Our country has some s...thole people and cities

1600 Pennsylvania ave and mar largo to name two.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

@Frankie1221  I assume you have never been to Haiti, its a magnificent place since the Clintons pored hundreds of millions of their money into it after the earthquake 

c130a
c130a

@Infraredguy - Where did you ever get the idea that the Clinton's did anything of value for Haiti?  They did nothing down there except pocket the money they collected for Haiti.  Read a newspaper once in a while!

c130a
c130a

@Frankie1221  - If you give us your address, Frankie, we can probably add another to your list.

LookCloser
LookCloser

Good assessment Mr. Young.  I am impressed.  Do you think Bill and Hillary would take a call from you requesting that the donations earmarked for Haiti would finally be given to them?

c130a
c130a

@LookCloser  - Great idea, Lookcloser.  Good old Andy wants whites to end black poverty, but never infringe on his friends, the Clintons.  He'd never dare cross Bill and Hillary.

Aikendawg
Aikendawg

Didn't he mean a carcass for the Clintons and Bushes to pick clean

Floppy
Floppy

Atlanta = shiphole